Comments on: Waking the Cadaver – Beyond Cops, Beyond God

By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 00:57:18 +0000

Hello…The only other reviews of this band that I have seen are on the metal archives, and they are scathing. I’m not much into devourment or other “slam” bands but I might check this out anyways. Well written review by the way.

By: JH DOOM

JH DOOM — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 19:14:11 +0000

Gordeth – Your’re right I’m sure the Internet plays a big part. When I first started getting into metal, you mostly had to look to magazines and such for info on bands. Now, anyone with a guitar and two chords can use myspace, bandcamp, etc to put their music out there, which in a way is kind of a shame. It makes the playing field equal and doesn’t allow for the cream to rise to the top. The world’s worst band can draw as much attention to themselves as the worlds best band. And yes, label quality control is a complete joke these days.

By: gordeth

gordeth — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 00:19:09 +0000

JH Doom – It could just be that you’re more exposed to all the crappy bands now because of the internet. In the past, most of these bands would have never been heard outside of their hometowns. Also, label QC has been on a steady decline since the mid ’90s. There are still a lot of great bands out there but you have to wade through a sea of crap to find them.

By: JH DOOM

JH DOOM — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:34:55 +0000

@ Gordeth – You might be right. I know there have been plenty of metal genres/subgenres that were decidedly lacking in substance in the past (hair metal, nu metal, the majority of metalcore etc), but sometimes I really feel like metal has reached it’s nadir. I mean it seems like I’ve gone from discovering a million cool new bands every month to turning my nose up at a million crappy new bands every month. At some point you have to ask yourself the question: “have things really gotten bad or is it just me being old/grouchy/out of touch/etc?! I just can’t imagine kids hearing this stuff for the first time and being moved by it in the same way that I was when I first heard Slayer or Megadeth for instance.

By: gordeth

gordeth — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:52:43 +0000

Don’t be hard on yourself, JH Doom. The kids are the ones who don’t understand that this style is nothing more than a simpleminded combination of the most vapid elements of hardcore and death metal. They’re just excited by any loud noises they can mosh to.

By: JH DOOM

JH DOOM — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 02:54:25 +0000

Ben – Ah, I was not aware of the Siege of Amida/Candlelight deal. I guess I should have read the fine print when I downloaded that digital promo. But surely Candlelight had to see some kind of financial gain in order to strike such a bargain with SOAR? I had completely forgotten about Candlelight’s ill-fated dabbling in the metalcore realm… you’d think they would’ve learned their lesson from that. I guess I shouldn’t be so hard on em… it isn’t like they’re are the only label to jump on a trend… I mean look at Roadrunner for crying out loud.

As for WTC coverage being better than Papa Roach coverage… that I’m not so sure about. I find both bands equally unlistenable. lol

In all seriousness though, I think a lot of it stems from me getting older and just not really understanding this new stuff “the kids” are into. I’m sure I’m not the only who feels this way, I just happen to be more vocal/obnoxious about it than most.

By: xbenx

xbenx — Sat, 27 Nov 2010 07:34:32 +0000

Hey JH Doom, no worries at all, the blog is really excellent! And thank you for your kind words and of course, I understand fully where your grievance but I would say it’s better that WTC get coverage then say Papa Roach no? Because 10 years ago, as I’m sure must remember, that would have been the case, EVERYONE wanted to sound like the dreaded you know what, luckily now there is more music then we can ever physically listen to so that dilemma is thankfully avoided.

Now you make a good point about Candlelight’s strategy here and I don’t want to commit to saying so because I don’t know how the company structure works, but, WTC is officially a Siege of Amida band, from what I understand Candlelight distribute and that’s where it ends, but, I could be wrong. That said, I still don’t think that WTC would be a commercially viable investment, a few years ago Candlelight started to invest in more metalcore bands such as Dead Man In Reno, Of Graves & Gods and a few others from what I remember, most, if not all (I think Dead Man are still going) didn’t do that well and broke up as a result and I’m sure that Candlelight lost rather than gained money there despite investing in bands that were playing a style that was the hot topic then.

Anyway, as always, time will tell, I don’t think this style will die out completely, tell you what, as I compromise I will push myself to review some of the darker depths of metal’s great ocean, I’ll just have to clear it with the powers that be and also clear my reviews pile first!

By: JH DOOM

JH DOOM — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:24:06 +0000

@ Ben – thanks for the kind words about THKD! Don’t get me wrong, I like what you guys do here at TOTD (otherwise why read it, right?), but I just wish big review sites like this one would just flat out ignore trash like WTC. That is just a combination of my own wishful thinking and old age/grouchiness talking though. I know I am in the minority and a lot of people actually want to read about these types of bands (there is truly no accounting for taste).

I would argue that signing a band like WTC is clearly Candlelight’s attempt to test the waters of this unfortunate deathcore/slam trend to whether or not it is a bankable for them. Say what you will about a limited audience, but a lot of kids seem to be listening to this shit and starting these types of bands lately. How long it will last is anyone’s guess.

By: xbenx

xbenx — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:54:21 +0000

JH, I appreciate your comments, and I really like your blog, but I think you’re barking up the wrong tree here on several counts. Firstly, I don’t think TOTD acts as a cheerleader for the big labels; I think most of the writers would in fact be quite offended by such a comment, if you want proof of this you can read my review of Bring Me The Horizon’s new album.

Secondly, I can’t see WTC as being a capital investment for Candlelight, they aren’t going to generate dollars as much as some of their other bigger bands, simply because of the base they appeal to (which is limited), if anything, Candelight are likely to make more money from their black metal artists than from WTC.

Tyler, I think it’s a fine line, for some WTC would be a gateway to more underground and challenging acts so there is definitely a place for them. They aren’t the finest band out there but I enjoy them and as for the production, I’m sure you’ve heard Artery Eruption, as much as I enjoy that band I do wish they’d consult a decent producer!

By: Tyler

Tyler — Sat, 20 Nov 2010 03:24:55 +0000

THIS is better than Devourment and Pathology? Hell, of those bands I only love one of them (Devourment), and Pathology is still LEAGUES above this group of posers. As far as the dude that mentioned Abysmal Torment, Infernal Revulsion, and Wormed…I seriously hope that the fans of those bands see what an absolute joke Waking the Cadaver is. Waking the Cadaver is not death metal; it’s not even slam death. It is run of the mill, generic deathcore, played more sloppy and with worse production than normal. If more people than not like this drivel, I’m scared for the future of metal as a genre.

By: JH DOOM

JH DOOM — Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:22:30 +0000

@Cedrick (the entertainer?) there is certainly nothing I hate more than being “fuckingstupid”. Thank you so much for pointing out my ignorance with sage words of wisdom such as: “false metal in that case every thing metal is false idiot”. You have made me see the error of my ways with your brilliant prose. From now on, I will only seek out the most half-retarded, poverty-level bands and listen to them furiously.

By: cedrick

cedrick — Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:57:50 +0000

JH Doom you are fuckingstupid my friend . false metal in that case every thing metal is false idiot .this album slays your mom !

By: JH DOOM

JH DOOM — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 19:35:26 +0000

I received a digital promo of this album and couldn’t even make it through two full tracks. Utterly pathetic in every aspect. Shame to see a respectable label like Candlelight putting this out just because they see dollar signs. Of course, judging from the comments here, the all the numbskull pit jocks out there will lap this shit up. And as long as sites like ToTD continue to act as cheerleaders for the big metal labels and the tripe they put out, bands like this will continue to spread false metal like the plague.

By: faust666

faust666 — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:18:56 +0000

it did shock me.. but only in a bad way.. lol. I just don’t like this overall “sound” or genre.

By: dave

dave — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:52:52 +0000

pathology and devourment have nothing on WAKING THE CADAVER’S new release. This album will seriously shock everyone who listens.

By: respect!

respect! — Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:39:03 +0000

this is the sickest album of 2010! WTC’s naysayers just want to forget this album exists and do anything in their power to stop it. SICKEST ALBUM I’VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME!

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:01:08 +0000

its nice to see this genre is getting more attention lately. I can’t wait for the new Flesh Consumed album thats gonna KILL.

Some other bands to check out if you like this: Abysmal Torment, Infernal Revulsion, Wormed

By: diego

diego — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:37:05 +0000

this album fucking owns !