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		By: GW		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-27120</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I learned all about how un-sexy metal music is, saw references to the Bee Gees and Sinead O&#039;Connor (who isn&#039;t sexy), learned about the writer&#039;s love of judicious reverb, how far folk metal is from church burnings (which are ostensibly a bad thing!?!?), that maybe i have been ghettoized (!?!?), that there is such a thing as John Varvatos jeans (wtf!?)...

and Nightbringer is a Black Metal band and play at Medium tempos. And maybe sound a little like Krallice. And it&#039;s good, which i already know.

To quote Supertramp &quot;...not much of a girlfriend, i never seem to get a lot.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned all about how un-sexy metal music is, saw references to the Bee Gees and Sinead O&#8217;Connor (who isn&#8217;t sexy), learned about the writer&#8217;s love of judicious reverb, how far folk metal is from church burnings (which are ostensibly a bad thing!?!?), that maybe i have been ghettoized (!?!?), that there is such a thing as John Varvatos jeans (wtf!?)&#8230;</p>
<p>and Nightbringer is a Black Metal band and play at Medium tempos. And maybe sound a little like Krallice. And it&#8217;s good, which i already know.</p>
<p>To quote Supertramp &#8220;&#8230;not much of a girlfriend, i never seem to get a lot.&#8221;</p>
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		By: GW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t fuck to Ludicra, Gallhammer, Unsun, Hammers of Misfortune...
Especially Subrosa.

Maybe Benedictum.

If you like music with Sex, try R &#038; B or Rap. It&#039;s all about fucking.

Metal is for riding into battle in an M-1.
Or just forgetting about what you have to do to get laid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t fuck to Ludicra, Gallhammer, Unsun, Hammers of Misfortune&#8230;<br />
Especially Subrosa.</p>
<p>Maybe Benedictum.</p>
<p>If you like music with Sex, try R &amp; B or Rap. It&#8217;s all about fucking.</p>
<p>Metal is for riding into battle in an M-1.<br />
Or just forgetting about what you have to do to get laid.</p>
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		By: Rick Perry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Perry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Scouting ought to be about building character, not about sex. Period. Precious few parents enroll their boys in the Scouts to get a crash course in sexual orientation.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Scouting ought to be about building character, not about sex. Period. Precious few parents enroll their boys in the Scouts to get a crash course in sexual orientation.&#8221;</p>
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		By: jerry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i was a reviewer for two metal sites years ago.  i definitely enjoyed putting together reviews not very far removed from this one, and i will admit, it was fun to put my worthless English degree to use.  But i will say this-i did shamelessly use someone else&#039;s art to in turn fulfill my own artistic expression.  where it differed then, was that i went into a LOT of detail about the music itself, and maybe i would bookend the review with some comedic fluff.  I probably even went TOO far into the musical discussion, since i&#039;m a musician myself and most likely lost the audience in the jargon.  however, i never felt the need to address the issues of metal as a culture, because we all know them.  i don&#039;t need to open a review for a particular album to read about the overlying issues of the genre it belongs to.  nowadays, i&#039;m an older asshole who doesn&#039;t have much time for anything more than &quot;so and so sounds like this.&quot;  if a review name drops the right band, my money is spent.  

i will say this-the review is a good piece of writing, and as much as i dislike when i have to wade through something verbose to tell me what an album sounds like, i wouldn&#039;t have finished the review if the way you worded it wasn&#039;t engaging.  its probably an unfortunate thing that i along with many readers succumb to the perils of immediate gratification, something that has all but destroyed the music industry and probably deserves its own conversation entirely, but when you write a review, as fun as it can be to interject your persona into it, you have to take into account not only that there are countless types of readers, but that you have a job to do, and that for every record you have to write about, there is a band behind it constantly refreshing websites, hoping to just read a positive adjective or a high score or whatever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was a reviewer for two metal sites years ago.  i definitely enjoyed putting together reviews not very far removed from this one, and i will admit, it was fun to put my worthless English degree to use.  But i will say this-i did shamelessly use someone else&#8217;s art to in turn fulfill my own artistic expression.  where it differed then, was that i went into a LOT of detail about the music itself, and maybe i would bookend the review with some comedic fluff.  I probably even went TOO far into the musical discussion, since i&#8217;m a musician myself and most likely lost the audience in the jargon.  however, i never felt the need to address the issues of metal as a culture, because we all know them.  i don&#8217;t need to open a review for a particular album to read about the overlying issues of the genre it belongs to.  nowadays, i&#8217;m an older asshole who doesn&#8217;t have much time for anything more than &#8220;so and so sounds like this.&#8221;  if a review name drops the right band, my money is spent.  </p>
<p>i will say this-the review is a good piece of writing, and as much as i dislike when i have to wade through something verbose to tell me what an album sounds like, i wouldn&#8217;t have finished the review if the way you worded it wasn&#8217;t engaging.  its probably an unfortunate thing that i along with many readers succumb to the perils of immediate gratification, something that has all but destroyed the music industry and probably deserves its own conversation entirely, but when you write a review, as fun as it can be to interject your persona into it, you have to take into account not only that there are countless types of readers, but that you have a job to do, and that for every record you have to write about, there is a band behind it constantly refreshing websites, hoping to just read a positive adjective or a high score or whatever.</p>
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		By: faust		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dude... I find this kind of music insufferable but I still read reviews for it, methinks you&#039;re just making things worse with your rambling, self-righteous comebacks. Move on people!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude&#8230; I find this kind of music insufferable but I still read reviews for it, methinks you&#8217;re just making things worse with your rambling, self-righteous comebacks. Move on people!!</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26266</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 00:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And here&#039;s the most basic thing: who the fuck would even know something called &quot;Teeth of the Divine&quot; even *existed*, to say nothing of writing something, gratis, when they could be spending that time getting paid, unless they really, really loved all kinds of metal to a pretty freaking extreme degree?

But you see this in most metal boards--people just jumping other people, not aware that they&#039;re all in this same, incredibly tiny boat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#8217;s the most basic thing: who the fuck would even know something called &#8220;Teeth of the Divine&#8221; even *existed*, to say nothing of writing something, gratis, when they could be spending that time getting paid, unless they really, really loved all kinds of metal to a pretty freaking extreme degree?</p>
<p>But you see this in most metal boards&#8211;people just jumping other people, not aware that they&#8217;re all in this same, incredibly tiny boat.</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26264</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 00:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow--you fellows are still at this?

I have time off from a feature article so I&#039;ll chime in here because. mainly, I&#039;m curious.

First, aside from a mensch who started to talk about the fascinating subject of reverb as an instrument, which *is* fascinating, and something I do know about, what with ten years pro studio experience as an engineer as my day job, everyone kind of freaked out about...well, onwards.

I wanted to talk about ideas that were, like, side effects of Nightbringer&#039;s terrific CD.

1. I thought it amusing that a genre that thinks itself so edgy and such, is actually &#039;traditional&#039; now. Which kind of blunts the idea of being &#039;extreme&#039;. A sense of humor is a good thing, but not here it seems.

2. I *loved* the bass on the CD. For some reason, nobody noticed that I loved many things about the CD that might assist in your purchase decisions.

3. This led to the idea of sexless metal--incredibly, *everyone* missed that I was empathizing  with *us*, with our situation as metalheads. 

That we&#039;ve sort of painted ourselves into a corner where, for reasons I&#039;m interested in exploring, where our music, unlike 80% or non-classical/experimental/noise music, is *intent* on not having an erotic component.

4. For some unfathomable reason, suggesting we get laid enraged people. 

4. For the last seven paragraphs, the review is about nothing but the music. *Nobody* seems even slightly interested in what I said about the band/the CD here.
They&#039;re off screaming that I&#039;m a PC feminist-poser whatever.

5. Is it this? &quot;You and your boy, or girl, or boy and boy&quot;? Is it just typing &quot;boy and boy&quot; that did the trick? 

Really, I&#039;m reaching here, because what you have is a review that&#039;s 70% music talk, 20% social observation, and a couple lame jokes.

PS: If you have a minute, please tell me what you think &quot;feminism&quot; is and why it enrages you so much. Really, it&#039;s like people saying &quot;that damned oxygen! I&#039;ve had it with oxygen and those fucking oxygen dealers!&quot; It&#039;s just weird.

PPS: On record, The Devil&#039;s Blood and Hammers of Misfortune are indeed like acid-tinged hard rock. But live, they&#039;re so fucking intense, the guitar parts so insanely interweavingly complex and played, again, with such agression, that it *becomes* metal, IMO.

Way more than, say, Iron Maiden when they&#039;re supposedly playing metal but to my ears are just playing baby boomer rock.

But you know what? I wouldn&#039;t scream at you you that you&#039;re a poseur douchebag elitist for feeling that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8211;you fellows are still at this?</p>
<p>I have time off from a feature article so I&#8217;ll chime in here because. mainly, I&#8217;m curious.</p>
<p>First, aside from a mensch who started to talk about the fascinating subject of reverb as an instrument, which *is* fascinating, and something I do know about, what with ten years pro studio experience as an engineer as my day job, everyone kind of freaked out about&#8230;well, onwards.</p>
<p>I wanted to talk about ideas that were, like, side effects of Nightbringer&#8217;s terrific CD.</p>
<p>1. I thought it amusing that a genre that thinks itself so edgy and such, is actually &#8216;traditional&#8217; now. Which kind of blunts the idea of being &#8216;extreme&#8217;. A sense of humor is a good thing, but not here it seems.</p>
<p>2. I *loved* the bass on the CD. For some reason, nobody noticed that I loved many things about the CD that might assist in your purchase decisions.</p>
<p>3. This led to the idea of sexless metal&#8211;incredibly, *everyone* missed that I was empathizing  with *us*, with our situation as metalheads. </p>
<p>That we&#8217;ve sort of painted ourselves into a corner where, for reasons I&#8217;m interested in exploring, where our music, unlike 80% or non-classical/experimental/noise music, is *intent* on not having an erotic component.</p>
<p>4. For some unfathomable reason, suggesting we get laid enraged people. </p>
<p>4. For the last seven paragraphs, the review is about nothing but the music. *Nobody* seems even slightly interested in what I said about the band/the CD here.<br />
They&#8217;re off screaming that I&#8217;m a PC feminist-poser whatever.</p>
<p>5. Is it this? &#8220;You and your boy, or girl, or boy and boy&#8221;? Is it just typing &#8220;boy and boy&#8221; that did the trick? </p>
<p>Really, I&#8217;m reaching here, because what you have is a review that&#8217;s 70% music talk, 20% social observation, and a couple lame jokes.</p>
<p>PS: If you have a minute, please tell me what you think &#8220;feminism&#8221; is and why it enrages you so much. Really, it&#8217;s like people saying &#8220;that damned oxygen! I&#8217;ve had it with oxygen and those fucking oxygen dealers!&#8221; It&#8217;s just weird.</p>
<p>PPS: On record, The Devil&#8217;s Blood and Hammers of Misfortune are indeed like acid-tinged hard rock. But live, they&#8217;re so fucking intense, the guitar parts so insanely interweavingly complex and played, again, with such agression, that it *becomes* metal, IMO.</p>
<p>Way more than, say, Iron Maiden when they&#8217;re supposedly playing metal but to my ears are just playing baby boomer rock.</p>
<p>But you know what? I wouldn&#8217;t scream at you you that you&#8217;re a poseur douchebag elitist for feeling that way.</p>
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		By: Grymmbear		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grymmbear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not only that, but in the article, he tries to cover up his mistakes by saying &quot;Replace Mr. Torture with *name a female vocalist here* and it still stands&quot;, which it doesn&#039;t, as the bulk and crux of his argument was using him as an example of a &quot;great female vocalist&quot;.

And now, after reading this &quot;review&quot;, I could tell that this guy was on a self-imposed high pedestal, doesn&#039;t bother to research what he&#039;s talking about, and is basically full of shit.

When I read a review, I want to know what an album/band sounds like, some points of interest, and if it&#039;s any good or worth my hard-earned money.  I don&#039;t want to read someone dancing around the review just so he can beat off all over our faces, so to speak.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only that, but in the article, he tries to cover up his mistakes by saying &#8220;Replace Mr. Torture with *name a female vocalist here* and it still stands&#8221;, which it doesn&#8217;t, as the bulk and crux of his argument was using him as an example of a &#8220;great female vocalist&#8221;.</p>
<p>And now, after reading this &#8220;review&#8221;, I could tell that this guy was on a self-imposed high pedestal, doesn&#8217;t bother to research what he&#8217;s talking about, and is basically full of shit.</p>
<p>When I read a review, I want to know what an album/band sounds like, some points of interest, and if it&#8217;s any good or worth my hard-earned money.  I don&#8217;t want to read someone dancing around the review just so he can beat off all over our faces, so to speak.</p>
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		By: EdKemper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EdKemper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grymmbear, thanks for the link. Dudes obviously pushing some horseshit faux-feminism for points with the ladies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grymmbear, thanks for the link. Dudes obviously pushing some horseshit faux-feminism for points with the ladies.</p>
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		By: faust		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[faust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[holy shit.. look !!!! it&#039;s the latest episode of &quot;Who Wants To Be An Esoteric Elitist Metalhead&quot;!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy shit.. look !!!! it&#8217;s the latest episode of &#8220;Who Wants To Be An Esoteric Elitist Metalhead&#8221;!!!!!</p>
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		By: Grymmbear		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grymmbear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was the most painful review I have ever read.

At least you didn&#039;t bring in Mr. Penny Torture from Psycho as an example of great female vocalists, like you did at Metalsucks.net a few months back.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/03/17/women-are-better-metal-singers-than-men/#disqus_thread]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the most painful review I have ever read.</p>
<p>At least you didn&#8217;t bring in Mr. Penny Torture from Psycho as an example of great female vocalists, like you did at Metalsucks.net a few months back.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/03/17/women-are-better-metal-singers-than-men/#disqus_thread" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/03/17/women-are-better-metal-singers-than-men/#disqus_thread</a></p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26222</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I won&#039;t reply anymore after this.

What I find in all metal writing is that, no matter what you say that strays from a very thin 
line, it ALWAYS turns into a pissing context between males (never female respondents. Never.)

I made many points about this band and this record and I made one point about metal in general. They all strayed from The Way One Does Things and the pissing began.

Really, joining the GOP would be a jump to the left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t reply anymore after this.</p>
<p>What I find in all metal writing is that, no matter what you say that strays from a very thin<br />
line, it ALWAYS turns into a pissing context between males (never female respondents. Never.)</p>
<p>I made many points about this band and this record and I made one point about metal in general. They all strayed from The Way One Does Things and the pissing began.</p>
<p>Really, joining the GOP would be a jump to the left.</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love this record. I feel sad about certain things--not condescension.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this record. I feel sad about certain things&#8211;not condescension.</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You did a word count???]]></description>
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		By: Rev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 00:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fitting that you cap 900 words of seething condescension by imploring that a reader refrain from being both a douche and an asshole. You&#039;re a pro&#039;s pro, Ian.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fitting that you cap 900 words of seething condescension by imploring that a reader refrain from being both a douche and an asshole. You&#8217;re a pro&#8217;s pro, Ian.</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26216</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know the difference. Can you NOT be such a douche about it?

I didn&#039;t say The Devil&#039;s Blood was the same as Watain of Agalloch or Jarboe or James Taylor. Seriously, chill on the asshole vibe, and I&#039;ll do the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the difference. Can you NOT be such a douche about it?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say The Devil&#8217;s Blood was the same as Watain of Agalloch or Jarboe or James Taylor. Seriously, chill on the asshole vibe, and I&#8217;ll do the same.</p>
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		By: Rev		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As writers, it&#039;s our job to quantify such things. Nightbringer is face-ripping black metal. The Devil&#039;s Blood is a fucking rock band. Learn the difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As writers, it&#8217;s our job to quantify such things. Nightbringer is face-ripping black metal. The Devil&#8217;s Blood is a fucking rock band. Learn the difference.</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26214</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you realize how hermetic this gets when we start the inevitable battle of What&#039;s Extreme Enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you realize how hermetic this gets when we start the inevitable battle of What&#8217;s Extreme Enough.</p>
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		By: Rev		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26213</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, for the record, I hated that SubRosa disc. I thought Grayceon&#039;s All We Destroy was a much better release from Profound Lore. And I never said it sucks because of a lack of a &quot;cock.&quot; Those are your words. Initially, I was speaking of &quot;extreme metal.&quot; I don&#039;t consider The Devil&#039;s Blood, SubRosa, Unsun, etc. &quot;extreme.&quot; You took a comment, lit yourself on fire, and ran around in circles with it.

You project a lot. And honestly, you&#039;re difficult to engage because you don&#039;t make a hell of a lot of sense. Usually, when a person has to comment at length (and with such ADD-addled bursts of consecutive posting) about something they&#039;ve written, it means that the initial piece didn&#039;t sufficiently cover all of the bases. You tried to make an unfinished thought the crux of an album review, and now we&#039;re talking about &quot;Cockists&quot; and Tiger Woods when most people just want to know a few things:

1) How does this album stack up to Death and the Black Work?
2) ...or Apocalypse Sun?
3) ...or American black metal in general?
4) ...or the other black metal releases from 2011, regardless of geography or scene?
5) ...or 2011&#039;s slate of releases as a whole? 

It&#039;s okay to play with the review format and be creative, but, again, try to make it something that&#039;s not only coherent, but something that your audience can actually relate to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for the record, I hated that SubRosa disc. I thought Grayceon&#8217;s All We Destroy was a much better release from Profound Lore. And I never said it sucks because of a lack of a &#8220;cock.&#8221; Those are your words. Initially, I was speaking of &#8220;extreme metal.&#8221; I don&#8217;t consider The Devil&#8217;s Blood, SubRosa, Unsun, etc. &#8220;extreme.&#8221; You took a comment, lit yourself on fire, and ran around in circles with it.</p>
<p>You project a lot. And honestly, you&#8217;re difficult to engage because you don&#8217;t make a hell of a lot of sense. Usually, when a person has to comment at length (and with such ADD-addled bursts of consecutive posting) about something they&#8217;ve written, it means that the initial piece didn&#8217;t sufficiently cover all of the bases. You tried to make an unfinished thought the crux of an album review, and now we&#8217;re talking about &#8220;Cockists&#8221; and Tiger Woods when most people just want to know a few things:</p>
<p>1) How does this album stack up to Death and the Black Work?<br />
2) &#8230;or Apocalypse Sun?<br />
3) &#8230;or American black metal in general?<br />
4) &#8230;or the other black metal releases from 2011, regardless of geography or scene?<br />
5) &#8230;or 2011&#8217;s slate of releases as a whole? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s okay to play with the review format and be creative, but, again, try to make it something that&#8217;s not only coherent, but something that your audience can actually relate to.</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26212</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll say this--when I think &#039;erotic&#039; I do not think in terms of &#039;thrusting&#039;--I think rhythmic fluidity. I think Gojira is incredibly erotic and their music is defined by the fluidity of their groove. You *sway* to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll say this&#8211;when I think &#8216;erotic&#8217; I do not think in terms of &#8216;thrusting&#8217;&#8211;I think rhythmic fluidity. I think Gojira is incredibly erotic and their music is defined by the fluidity of their groove. You *sway* to it.</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Danhammer&#039;s post--all but the bit about &quot;rape&quot;--is really worth thinking about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danhammer&#8217;s post&#8211;all but the bit about &#8220;rape&#8221;&#8211;is really worth thinking about.</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26210</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ludicra and Hammers of Misfortune are totally different bands; both use female vocals/input.]]></description>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In short--it&#039;s not about women being as good and agressive as men, it&#039;s about men trying to play catch-up with what women are bringing to metal.

Listen to Subrosa.  When you say THIS SUX!, There&#039;s no cock! Well, you&#039;ll have it half right.

As for Nightbringer--I said in the review what I have to say; why say it again?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In short&#8211;it&#8217;s not about women being as good and agressive as men, it&#8217;s about men trying to play catch-up with what women are bringing to metal.</p>
<p>Listen to Subrosa.  When you say THIS SUX!, There&#8217;s no cock! Well, you&#8217;ll have it half right.</p>
<p>As for Nightbringer&#8211;I said in the review what I have to say; why say it again?</p>
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		By: Ian Grey		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26208</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s no meltdown. Assuming an alpha dog calm doesn&#039;t enhance a position that isn&#039;t there.

It&#039;s not my fault that the only acceptable mode of discourse for some of the respondents here is Intro-describe record--thumbs up/down--outro.

So far there hasn&#039;t been a response that engages what I had to say about the record, which was plenty.

Basically, you even glancingly say anything that even sort of questions the holy primacy of the Cock and the boys go crazy.

The upside is that the Cockists comprise a tiny, tiny part of a metal world that, in baby steps, IS allowing the erotic, eros and feminine into the metal world, all of which creates a deeper, richer metal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no meltdown. Assuming an alpha dog calm doesn&#8217;t enhance a position that isn&#8217;t there.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not my fault that the only acceptable mode of discourse for some of the respondents here is Intro-describe record&#8211;thumbs up/down&#8211;outro.</p>
<p>So far there hasn&#8217;t been a response that engages what I had to say about the record, which was plenty.</p>
<p>Basically, you even glancingly say anything that even sort of questions the holy primacy of the Cock and the boys go crazy.</p>
<p>The upside is that the Cockists comprise a tiny, tiny part of a metal world that, in baby steps, IS allowing the erotic, eros and feminine into the metal world, all of which creates a deeper, richer metal.</p>
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		By: Rev		</title>
		<link>https://www.teethofthedivine.com/reviews/nightbringer-hierophany-of-the-open-grave/#comment-26207</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ian, John Cobbett is in Ludicra. 

Nice meltdown, by the way. Any chance you could tell us about that new Nightbringer album yet?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, John Cobbett is in Ludicra. </p>
<p>Nice meltdown, by the way. Any chance you could tell us about that new Nightbringer album yet?</p>
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